Haya,
it's indeed a long time ago that I released something. Let me first
announce that the bug in HS build 206 has been fixed. A trick testing the
zero flag that was incorrectly set in TR 2.x on a certain rol ax,1
instruction (I will post the code to interested people) fucked up Win98 on
some processors, I still don't understand completely how this is possible.
Second. Since years and years, unpackers are released for HackStop and all
ones blame HackStop for its docs. Yes, those docs ARE old and they ARE
wrong. Some people just cannot look to code, it seems. And no, HackStop
1.19 is not the ultimate protection, **** is overrated because it was
mainly coded for its stability, exactly as even Gabler knows. (Really
shitty that bug.. we'll rerelease it in a week or so. Stability counts.)
The problem I want to have reaction on, is this. I tried to help Gabler
coding a relocation builder, but I could not reach him because the lamer
does not have any valid email address, while he seems to read the exelist.
I wanted to help because I have a certain kind of naive nature to that, he
sent me the forwarded email below. I do not think I will ever act that way
to Gabler again, if anyone is interested.
Now, he released his unpacker. So far, so good. But why those docs? There
is not any reason for it and it undoubtedly shows who is the lamer here.
(Maybe a good idea to restart the votes for removal of him from the
exelist.) Rose and I decided not to reply, Gabler is not worth the time.
But he seems to MUST have an answer, otherwise he would not have spammed
the binaries to the list (next, he'll post some hacked HS docs or even
more insider.faqs I bet.) Rose is used to shit like this, but the Mess
unpackers at least respected the authors. I wonder how to reply if I
should.
I want this to stop. Post unpackers, no shit. And the rest of this
discussion should be done PRIVATE. No Christoph, first you get yourself a
valid email and you do NOT reply via documentation or via secret areas.
Okay, that's my 2 cents. If anyone is interested, edit packerz.inc and
send it to Rose, because rating one's own packer is indeed undemocratic.
That packerz.inc is the lamest part of HS119, I know.
(Hanno: why is the X-Reply-To kludge of any mail from the exelist set to
the exelist itself? Can that be fixed?)
Stonehead.
---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 18:08:02 +0200 (MEST)
From: CHRiSTOPH GABLER <ChristophG1@...>
To: pspiertz@sci.kun.nl
Subject: CSR 1.1 - Remover for all CrackStopped files
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hi stonehead,
nice to hear from you after all that time.. (of course over the
exelist ;)), anyway, I didn´t see this new HS versions... I tried
the ones Rose used in his newest progs (rosediag.exe,rhvbs....)
and they could be unpacked using CUP 3.4 /3, EDUMP, LTR, GTR 1.C1,
Iceunp 0.3.1, CrkCOm and DumpCom (all dumpers...)!
I don´t know if this has changed in the new versions.. but anyway,
I´m still having a relocation rebuilding problem with my UNHS.
Maybe you can help me out:
- I used another brkpoint for getting the relocs... worked great,
but since I´m using indirect breakpoints (not adress breaks) I´m
failing to break at the right place in the most protected file...
- So, i removed it to begin in a totally different way, I want to
rebuild it using the 2 pass method all generic unpackers use.
But I don´t 100% know how to do it. I think I should unpack the
file twice using another mem allocation. Than compare the two out-
puts in order to rebuild it. But I don´t really know how, would you
help me out?
Thanx, Christoph
PS: Just for nonsense fun I attached the current UNHS (without the
anyway not-at-all working reloc rebuilder)
PPS: Would you send me your latest Mess versions, plz?
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